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200 episodes legacy of Sales Ops Demystifies Podcast 

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Alex:  Alex shares his favourite episode of the demystified podcast. We were joined by Dana Therrien from Genesys who discussed the biggest trends in Sales Ops alongside designing the ideal RevOps experience. This episode was valuable to Alex as he had not considered what an ideal rep experience looked like.  

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140,593 Downloads: The love for Sales Ops Demystified Podcast 

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Throughout all 198 episodes one thing has remained the same. The hosts and audience have been blown away by every single guest who has imparted an immense amount of knowledge. 

Transitioning into RevOps from Sales Ops

Toni: The major difference between Sales and RevOps is that the latter takes a more strategic approach that involves alignment across several departments. The best way to get your foot in the door is by spending more time with the commercial leaders in your business. 

Alex: You are already in a job where you are enabling others to shine. There is no-one who is in a better position to transition into this role. Your existing knowledge of Sales Ops can be leveraged.

Do you need prior sales experience to transition to RevOps? 

Toni: RevOps is all about the alignment of sales, marketing and customer success. So, the more exposure you have with each department, the easier it is to transition into a RevOps role. Becoming familiar with the goals and motivations of these departments gives you a complete picture of existing processes and allows you to evolve accordingly. 

Alex: Prior experience can be a plus but it is not a necessity. The key is to lean on the people around you and absorb as much information as possible. 

Future of RevOps : Challenges that hinder the transition into RevOps 

Toni: As a RevOps person you need to be acting as a consultant. If you have the ability to understand the why and the objectives then you will easily be able to translate what you want to achieve. Exposing yourself to different areas is essential. You want to read the rules before you break them. 

Alex: We are moving away from working as individuals to a more collaborative approach.  

The future of RevOps

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Alex: The technology we are currently using is more siloed. Some simplicity is needed to create a seamless journey, ensuring everyone’s systems are talking to each other and ultimately moving towards that single source of truth. We have not really seen what is to come. 

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